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Limiting factor on height & width of equipment?

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 11:32 am
by RRFoose
What/where was the limiting factors for tallest & widest rolling stock/equipment moves on the system? Perhaps the tunnel near N Forge St in Akron? Or the B&O underpass in Medina? What was the tallest height & widest measurements that could be moved across the AC&Y? Could the Wheeling move autoracks or doublestacks today (traffic source permitting, of course)? Could they do high/wide movements? Seems like some big equipment came out of B&W. Thanks for the info!

Re: Limiting factor on height & width of equipment?

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:32 am
by Luke
The topic of clearances was explored in the Summer 2011 AC&Y Historical Society News magazine. You are correct in naming the restrictions - the tunnel at Forge Street and B&O underpass at Medina. Most of the clearance loads originated at Babcock & Wilcox in Barberton. One shipment was profiled in the AC&Y Employee magazine (see attached). The AC&Y did originate TOFC loads from Brittain yard in 1966-67. While most of this traffic was simply interchanged to the N&W at Mogadore, some loads are believed to have moved west to Bellevue through Spencer. It's unknown if any auto traffic (auto rack/multi-level) routed AC&Y and definitely not double-stacks. Hope this helps! REL

Re: Limiting factor on height & width of equipment?

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:26 pm
by RRFoose
Thanks for the info! I just found a W&LE timetable that states restrictions at those locations: 18'11" max height for the B&O bridge and 18'9" for the Akron tunnel. Double-stacks can be 18'2", 19'2", or 20'2", depending on regular or hi-cube containers. So, W&LE "could" run doublestacks if need be today, but they could only be regular height containers. Any hi-cubes would relegate them to single-stack cars. Normal autoracks should be clear the entire route, but I think the Automax cars reach up to 20'2".

Re: Limiting factor on height & width of equipment?

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:06 pm
by RRFoose
Luke wrote:The topic of clearances was explored in the Summer 2011 AC&Y Historical Society News magazine.


PS - How does one go about getting back issues of the news letter?

Re: Limiting factor on height & width of equipment?

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:14 pm
by ABB1501
I'm guessing the loads from B&W would have come of the ABB. Would they have gone to the Belt Junction interchange because of less restrictions on the size of the shipment?

Re: Limiting factor on height & width of equipment?

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:02 pm
by Luke
The A&BB right-of-way between Barberton and Belt Junction was built primarily through low swamp land. In fact, the line was so unstable that it was closed entirely for a ten year period after a swamp (peat bog) fire. The fear of derailments (and cleaning up same with heavy wreckers) on the swamp line was so great, the A&BB employed a small ex-PRR steamer to handle interchange runs. All high / wide and extra heavy clearance traffic was interchanged to the AC&Y in East Akron. Hope this answers your question

Re: Limiting factor on height & width of equipment?

Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:27 pm
by ABB1501
Thanks, I can picture them having to fish for a boiler out of the Pigeon Creek.